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CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve

This is a call for action to vote on Sun's bug 4910812 to make the JVM HotSwap support class API changes as well as method implementation changes. This would make Java exactly as agile as any scripting language. It is the single most annoying problem with the JVM for me at this moment.

Keith Lea and Patrick Lightbody feel exactly the same.
posted by Geert Bevin in Java on Oct 11, 2005 6:09 PM : 9 comments [permalink]
 

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Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
just added my vote, how much do we need
posted by dennis bekkering on Oct 11, 2005 11:45 PM
Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
No idea, as much as possible I suppose ;)
posted by Geert Bevin on Oct 11, 2005 11:57 PM
Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
Thanks btw :-)
posted by Geert Bevin on Oct 11, 2005 11:58 PM
Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
no thank you for starting this.:D
posted by dennis bekkering on Oct 12, 2005 12:13 AM
Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
it is in the top 25 =) some stuff is there for years though:'(
posted by dennis bekkering on Oct 19, 2005 10:51 PM
Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
OK, OK, we get it.

But what is it you need?
Add methods?
Delete methods?
Add fields?
Delete fields?
Change superclass?

And most importantly -- why?

Adding methods is a couple weeks of work.

Any of the rest of it is months of work!

So we have to know why this is important. Months of work could fix a LOT of bugs, or add a lot of groovy new features.
posted by Someone on the inside on Oct 25, 2005 12:08 PM
Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
Lol, you're kidding, right?
posted by Geert Bevin on Oct 25, 2005 12:11 PM
Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
I love it when I'm funny, even if I have no idea why I'm such a great comedian.

Kidding? No.

But while we are at it. The following forum would actually be the better place for a discussion of what hotswapping functionality we should support and why:

http://forums.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=572396&tstart=0
posted by Someone on the inside on Oct 26, 2005 9:09 AM
Re: CALL FOR ACTION: vote with us, HotSwap has to improve
Hi, I replied in the forum, thanks for opening this up for discussion.
posted by Geert Bevin on Oct 26, 2005 9:56 AM

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